{"id":1382,"date":"2014-12-08T07:09:56","date_gmt":"2014-12-08T12:09:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/midwestapologetics.org\/blog\/?p=1382"},"modified":"2014-12-08T11:05:15","modified_gmt":"2014-12-08T16:05:15","slug":"king-saul-a-witch-and-an-elohim-part-two","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/midwestapologetics.org\/blog\/?p=1382","title":{"rendered":"King Saul, a Witch, and an Elohim\u2014Part Two"},"content":{"rendered":"
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The Witch of En Dor by William Blake<\/p><\/div>\n

Who or what appeared at En Dor when King Saul asked a medium to call for Samuel? In the first article I posted on this subject<\/a>, I discussed the two primary views held by Christians: the spirit was either a satanic impostor or God actually sent Samuel\u2019s spirit to pronounce judgment on the disobedient king.<\/p>\n

Many Christians favor the idea that an evil spirit simply impersonated Samuel, but the text seems to say otherwise. The narrative calls the entity \u201cSamuel\u201d five different times and gives no indication that we should look for another meaning. Also, the words that the spirit spoke were completely true\u2014Saul and his sons did die that day. This post will explore other passages that help us properly interpret 1 Samuel 28, and we\u2019ll also clear up some confusion about one of the most important words in the Bible.<\/p>\n

Do Other Passages Provide Clues to the Proper Interpretation?<\/strong><\/p>\n

King Saul had previously disobeyed a command from the Lord to completely destroy the Amalekites and their cattle. After Samuel pronounced judgment on the king for his unfaithfulness we are told that they went their separate ways\u2014Samuel to Rama and Saul to Gibeah. Then the author tells us that \u201cSamuel went no more to see Saul until the day of his death\u201d (1 Samuel 15:35).<\/p>\n

In both English and Hebrew, it is ambiguous if the \u201chis death\u201d refers to Samuel\u2019s death or Saul\u2019s death. The NET Bible translates the passage as referring to Samuel\u2019s death: \u201cUntil the day he died Samuel did not see Saul again\u201d (1 Samuel 15:35), but there are problems with this rendering. The NASB and ESV remain ambiguous about whose death is referenced, but they did not translate the preposition \u201cto.\u201d For example, the NASB states that \u201cSamuel did not see<\/em> Saul again until the day of his death\u201d (1 Samuel 15:35). As we\u2019ll see, this minor textual decision strongly impacts one\u2019s interpretation.<\/p>\n

There are at least two reasons why \u201chis death\u201d in 1 Samuel 15:35 should be viewed as a reference to King Saul\u2019s death. First, if the NASB\u2019s rendering is accurate (that Samuel did not see <\/em>Saul again until the day one of them died), then it creates a contradiction in the text. In 1 Samuel 19:18, David fled from Saul to Samuel in Ramah. After sending messengers to capture David, Saul himself came to Ramah. The Spirit of God came upon Saul and he \u201cprophesied before Samuel\u201d (v. 24). So Samuel did see Saul again, but the prophet did not go<\/em> to<\/em> see Saul again until the incident at En Dor\u2014Saul came to him. The translation of the preposition \u201cto\u201d makes a huge difference in 1 Samuel 15:35.<\/p>\n

One concern about this interpretation has to do with how it could be said that Samuel\u2019s spirit went to Saul, particularly when it was the medium who summoned him. I believe there is a reasonable solution. Samuel’s spirit still had to travel some “distance” from wherever he was (Sheol or heaven?) to where Saul was. Samuel asked, “Why have you disturbed me by bringing me up?” and the medium said, “An old man is coming up, and he is wrapped in a robe.” Both of these statements imply that the spirit was traveling from somewhere else to arrive there. Daniel 10 may also shed some light on the subject. The angel that spoke to Daniel had to travel to get to the prophet, but he was held up by the prince of Persia for 21 days (Daniel 10:13). Again, this implies some degree of movement to go from the spiritual realm to the physical world. Since they are not omnipresent, spirits are localized entities, thus they must move if they are to go from one place to another.<\/p>\n

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A classic depiction of Saul’s infamous visit to the medium at En Dor from Sadducismus Triumphatus<\/em> by Joseph Glanvill.<\/p><\/div>\n

The second reason we should view \u201chis death\u201d as a reference to Saul is found in 1 Samuel 25. In the brief record of Samuel\u2019s death, there is no indication at all that Saul was present. After being told that Saul went home (Gibeah) sometime earlier, the text states, \u201cThen Samuel died; and the Israelites gathered together and lamented for him, and buried him at his home in Ramah\u201d (1 Samuel 25:1). It seems highly unlikely that, in his final day, the dying prophet would make a trip to Gibeah to see Saul. Even if Saul should be included in \u201cthe Israelites\u201d who gathered and lamented for Samuel, this did not happen until after Samuel had died.<\/p>\n

Based on these passages in 1 Samuel 19 and 25, we can be fairly confident that \u201chis death\u201d in 1 Samuel 15:35 refers to the king\u2019s death. That being the case, it lends good support to the interpretation that it really was the spirit of Samuel that appeared at En Dor. The prophet then announced that the king would be with him (i.e. the king would die) later that day. So we see that other passages help us understand that 1 Samuel 15:35 tells us Samuel did not go to see Saul until the day that Saul died.<\/p>\n

An Elohim?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Perhaps the greatest cause of confusion in this passage has to do with the word that is used by the medium when she describes what she saw.<\/p>\n

And the king said to her, \u201cDo not be afraid. What did you see?\u201d
\nAnd the woman said to Saul, \u201cI saw a spirit ascending out of the earth.\u201d\u00a0(1 Samuel 28:13)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The word translated as \u201cspirit\u201d in this verse is \u2019elohim<\/em>. Roughly ninety percent of the time this word is used in the Old Testament\u2014over 2000 times\u2014it refers to the one true God, a fact which has led to much misunderstanding. \u2019Elohim<\/em> is not God\u2019s name; it is better understood as a title or a description for God whose name is Yahweh.<\/p>\n

So what does \u2019elohim<\/em> refer to the other ten percent of the time it is used? It can refer to angels.<\/p>\n

For you have made him a little lower than the angels (\u2019elohim<\/em>), and You have crowned him with glory and honor. (Psalm 8:5)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Some Bibles, such as the NASB, translate this verse to say that man was made \u201ca little lower than God.\u201d While the word certainly can refer to God, it does not on this occasion. Hebrews 2:7 quotes this verse and uses the Greek word for angels, which is how the Septuagint translated it too.<\/p>\n

\u2019Elohim<\/em> is also used to refer to demons.<\/p>\n

They sacrificed to demons, not to God, to gods<\/em> (\u2019elohim<\/em>) they did not know, to new gods<\/em>, new arrivals that your fathers did not fear. (Deuteronomy 32:17, italics in original)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The NKJV quoted above makes a curious formatting error here. It italicizes words that are not in the Hebrew but are added when necessary for a sentence to make sense. The problem here is that the first time gods<\/em> is italicized, the Hebrew word is there. And that word is \u2019elohim<\/em>.<\/p>\n

In six verses, \u2019elohim<\/em> is used as part of the term \u201csons of God\u201d (bene ha \u2019elohim<\/em>). These \u201csons of God\u201d are a class of heavenly beings who rejoiced at creation (Job 38:7), met with God regularly (Job 1:6; 2:1), rebelled and married women (Genesis 6:2, 4), and were apparently charged with overseeing the Gentile nations (Deuteronomy 32:8, ESV).<\/p>\n

In the majority of cases where \u2019elohim<\/em> does not refer to the one true God, it is used in reference to the false gods worshiped by the nations. For example, Deuteronomy 6:14 states, \u201cYou shall not go after other gods (\u2019elohim<\/em>)\u2026\u201d This type of command is found many times in Deuteronomy. \u2019Elohim<\/em> is also used this way in the first of the Ten Commandments: \u201cYou shall have no other gods [\u2019elohim<\/em>] before Me\u201d (Exodus 20:3).<\/p>\n

So what did the spirit of Samuel have in common with these other uses of the word? Put another way, how could God, the spirit of Samuel, false gods, angels, and the sons of God all be called \u2019elohim<\/em>? I can think of only one shared attribute: they are all residents of the spiritual realm, or more accurately, the spiritual realm is their primary place of operation.<\/p>\n

If this is accurate, then we need to realize that \u2019elohim<\/em> is not God\u2019s personal name (as the Mormons teach), but a title for Him. His personal name is Yahweh (YHWH). Yahweh is an \u2019elohim<\/em> but no other \u2019elohim<\/em> is Yahweh. He is unique, and He created all of the other\u00a0\u2019elohim.<\/em><\/p>\n

Understanding this important truth clears up some of the confusion about what took place in 1 Samuel 28. Yes, an \u2019elohim<\/em> truly did appear to the medium and Saul, but it was not a god. While the term can refer to a demonic being it can also refer to the spirit of a deceased person since they primarily inhabit the spiritual realm. As such, we can be fairly certain that it was the spirit of Samuel who was permitted to pronounce judgment upon the rebellious king of Israel.<\/p>\n

Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n

Much more could be said about this intriguing passage, but there are no compelling reasons to reject the straightforward understanding of the text\u2014that Samuel really did appear to pronounce judgment on Saul.<\/p>\n

I believe those who think that Satan or a demon appeared rather than Samuel are allowing their theological views to override the meaning of the text. Of course, our theology will always influence how we interpret a passage, but we must be careful not to let our ideas\u00a0get in the way of rightly dividing the word of truth.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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